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Re: Labour watch

PostPosted by mistadobalina » Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:11 pm

Trainwreck of a relaunch. No idea what he's trying to convey on immigration vs. single market, and whatever it is he's trying to say has been totally overshadowed by the maximum wage 'policy' anyway. I reckon one of his own will stab him in the back before long, Corb's is totally c*cking it up for them.
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Re: Labour watch

PostPosted by Off The Hook » Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:16 pm

Well I for one am amazed that all the right wing wums and Blair kids are so down on Corbyn 2017. It's almost as if they're negative about him whatever he does. Weird.
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Re: Labour watch

PostPosted by Lester [Bot] » Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:21 pm

"immigration not too high"

Ok mate.
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Re: Labour watch

PostPosted by Nice Username » Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:23 pm

Slacker is a right wing WUM/Blair kid?

I reckon Mista is right. Even among the idiots in his inner circle, there are still a few slightly less idiotic than Corbyn who are going to shut this down soon. They just want to do it in a way that doesn't get them the blame from the Cult.
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Re: Labour watch

PostPosted by mistadobalina » Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:31 pm

'Danny Blanchflower, a former member of the Bank of England’s monetary policy committee and a former member of Corbyn’s economic advisory committee, has used Twitter to describe the wage cap proposal as “totally idiotic”.'
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Re: Labour watch

PostPosted by Off The Hook » Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:34 pm

Nice Username wrote:Slacker is a right wing WUM/Blair kid?



Slacker? He's commented that this is a vote winner.
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Re: Labour watch

PostPosted by Off The Hook » Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:36 pm

mistadobalina wrote:'Danny Blanchflower, a former member of the Bank of England’s monetary policy committee and a former member of Corbyn’s economic advisory committee, has used Twitter to describe the wage cap proposal as “totally idiotic”.'


But if you're a decent person that want's a more equal, fairer society, then you have to agree that the discrepancy between the highest and lowest earners has to close, and a wage cap is one way of going about it. I don't see how anyone can disagree with this.
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Re: Labour watch

PostPosted by Nice Username » Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:51 pm

Off The Hook wrote:
Nice Username wrote:Slacker is a right wing WUM/Blair kid?



Slacker? He's commented that this is a vote winner.


How about the rest of his post? What happened to the 'principles' that Corbyn cultists were so keen on a year ago?
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Re: Labour watch

PostPosted by Max B Gold » Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:52 pm

Off The Hook wrote:
mistadobalina wrote:'Danny Blanchflower, a former member of the Bank of England’s monetary policy committee and a former member of Corbyn’s economic advisory committee, has used Twitter to describe the wage cap proposal as “totally idiotic”.'


But if you're a decent person that want's a more equal, fairer society, then you have to agree that the discrepancy between the highest and lowest earners has to close, and a wage cap is one way of going about it. I don't see how anyone can disagree with this.


But isn't it the wrong way round. Shouldn't the focus be on levelling up. Its a gift to the right as it can be spun as anti-aspirational
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Re: Labour watch

PostPosted by Nice Username » Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:53 pm

Off The Hook wrote:
mistadobalina wrote:'Danny Blanchflower, a former member of the Bank of England’s monetary policy committee and a former member of Corbyn’s economic advisory committee, has used Twitter to describe the wage cap proposal as “totally idiotic”.'


But if you're a decent person that want's a more equal, fairer society, then you have to agree that the discrepancy between the highest and lowest earners has to close, and a wage cap is one way of going about it. I don't see how anyone can disagree with this.


How does capping the wages of a guy earning £1million a year benefit a factory worker earning £7 per hour exactly? Yet again the left make the mistake of trying to 'close the gap' by making everyone poorer instead of the poorest better off.
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Re: Labour watch

PostPosted by WasSpike » Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:00 pm

Off The Hook wrote:
mistadobalina wrote:'Danny Blanchflower, a former member of the Bank of England’s monetary policy committee and a former member of Corbyn’s economic advisory committee, has used Twitter to describe the wage cap proposal as “totally idiotic”.'


But if you're a decent person that want's a more equal, fairer society, then you have to agree that the discrepancy between the highest and lowest earners has to close, and a wage cap is one way of going about it. I don't see how anyone can disagree with this.


Wouldn't it be better to raise the tax levels on the very highest earners - (and stop them avoiding it, obviously), rather than stopping them earning it ?
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Re: Labour watch

PostPosted by ComeOnYouOsRS » Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:06 pm

A wage cap is in theory a good idea, to keep the richest & poorest as close as its possible to get, but in reality, its a bad idea, as has been said above, the right will use it as an anti aspirational idea

A better idea, as was said in the post above this, is to raise taxes for the very rich, and close offshore loopholes etc. That way the treasury benefits
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Re: Labour watch

PostPosted by Off The Hook » Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:11 pm

Nice Username wrote:
Off The Hook wrote:
Nice Username wrote:Slacker is a right wing WUM/Blair kid?



Slacker? He's commented that this is a vote winner.


How about the rest of his post? What happened to the 'principles' that Corbyn cultists were so keen on a year ago?


So Corbyn 2016 was out of touch and failing to win voters over?

Yet Corbyn 2017 is unprincipled?

It's almost as if you criticise him whatever he does because you don't like the man and his ideology.
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Re: Labour watch

PostPosted by Off The Hook » Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:13 pm

Max B Gold wrote:
Off The Hook wrote:
mistadobalina wrote:'Danny Blanchflower, a former member of the Bank of England’s monetary policy committee and a former member of Corbyn’s economic advisory committee, has used Twitter to describe the wage cap proposal as “totally idiotic”.'


But if you're a decent person that want's a more equal, fairer society, then you have to agree that the discrepancy between the highest and lowest earners has to close, and a wage cap is one way of going about it. I don't see how anyone can disagree with this.


But isn't it the wrong way round. Shouldn't the focus be on levelling up. Its a gift to the right as it can be spun as anti-aspirational


Pretty sure Corbs has been banging on about raising wages for the lowest, and how unfair it is that smany hard working people are still in poverty as well. Yet strangely the Corby press coverage hasn't focused on that.
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Re: Labour watch

PostPosted by mistadobalina » Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:22 pm

Maybe, just maybe, this is the start of the 'Trumpesque' Corbyn, where you just say batsh*t things to get press attention to keep yourself in the news.
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Re: Labour watch

PostPosted by Max B Gold » Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:24 pm

Off The Hook wrote:
Max B Gold wrote:
Off The Hook wrote:
mistadobalina wrote:'Danny Blanchflower, a former member of the Bank of England’s monetary policy committee and a former member of Corbyn’s economic advisory committee, has used Twitter to describe the wage cap proposal as “totally idiotic”.'


But if you're a decent person that want's a more equal, fairer society, then you have to agree that the discrepancy between the highest and lowest earners has to close, and a wage cap is one way of going about it. I don't see how anyone can disagree with this.


But isn't it the wrong way round. Shouldn't the focus be on levelling up. Its a gift to the right as it can be spun as anti-aspirational


Pretty sure Corbs has been banging on about raising wages for the lowest, and how unfair it is that smany hard working people are still in poverty as well. Yet strangely the Corby press coverage hasn't focused on that.


Yes. yes but that wasn't the bit I was criticising.
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Re: Labour watch

PostPosted by Nice Username » Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:29 pm

Off The Hook wrote:
Nice Username wrote:
Off The Hook wrote:
Nice Username wrote:Slacker is a right wing WUM/Blair kid?



Slacker? He's commented that this is a vote winner.


How about the rest of his post? What happened to the 'principles' that Corbyn cultists were so keen on a year ago?


So Corbyn 2016 was out of touch and failing to win voters over?

Yet Corbyn 2017 is unprincipled?

It's almost as if you criticise him whatever he does because you don't like the man and his ideology.


I can't stand the guy, but I'm asking why the Labour Party is saddled with this idiot when we were told his USP was how principled and honest he was.
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Re: Labour watch

PostPosted by Off The Hook » Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:37 pm

mistadobalina wrote:Maybe, just maybe, this is the start of the 'Trumpesque' Corbyn, where you just say batsh*t things to get press attention to keep yourself in the news.


:D

Believuing equality is batshit is pretty trumpesque, to be fair.
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Re: Labour watch

PostPosted by Off The Hook » Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:39 pm

Nice Username wrote:
Off The Hook wrote:
Nice Username wrote:
Off The Hook wrote:
Nice Username wrote:Slacker is a right wing WUM/Blair kid?



Slacker? He's commented that this is a vote winner.


How about the rest of his post? What happened to the 'principles' that Corbyn cultists were so keen on a year ago?


So Corbyn 2016 was out of touch and failing to win voters over?

Yet Corbyn 2017 is unprincipled?

It's almost as if you criticise him whatever he does because you don't like the man and his ideology.


I can't stand the guy, but I'm asking why the Labour Party is saddled with this idiot when we were told his USP was how principled and honest he was.


We're 'saddled' with him because the vast majority of party members believe in the same things as he does.
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Re: Labour watch

PostPosted by Orient Meat Pie » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:31 pm

The inequality is at the low pay end, not the high pay end. To simply cut the top pay is the laziest and most instantly gratifying act of envy Corbyn can do. It sure beats him actually earning his £138k by identifying the root cause of the problem of inequality, devising a remedy that can be a permanent solution that actually lifts the poorest out of poverty, and garnering sufficient support and unity within his own party with which to being it about. But then I guess he's just too busy trying to square the circle of encouraging more immigration which he acknowledges is actually driving down low paid workers' wages while increasing the profits of their employers.
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