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PostPosted by MafiosO » Mon May 18, 2015 9:34 pm

So Yvette cooper, shoulder to shoulder with Ed Milliband during the election now chooses to join those who criticise his leadership (lack of) and his policies.

It begs the question. If she believed he got it so wrong wouldn't the honourable thing to do to challenge him a few years ago. Was she being, well "unclear".when she offered him her 100% support. Perhaps she has had a eureka Moment. How can we trust people who believe a direction one day and criticise it another. Dirty business. Gutless, clueless, selfish are words that spring to mind.
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Re: Labour watch

PostPosted by ClintEastwoodBradfield » Mon May 18, 2015 9:38 pm

Phew, it's lucky that there is no disharmony at all in the Tory party and that everyone actually is 100% behind the PM otherwise it'd look a lot like you don't really know what you're talking about.
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Re: Labour watch

PostPosted by Off The Hook » Mon May 18, 2015 9:40 pm

It's lucky that the Tories never change their mind on anything.

Other than the first two years of their last term in office, when they carried out U turn after U turn in true The Thick Of It style.
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Re: Labour watch

PostPosted by MafiosO » Mon May 18, 2015 9:41 pm

My comments are not about the Tory party or any disharmony there. Keep up. If that the best you can do I'd give up. If you hadn't noticed there is a Tory watch thread elsewhere. Must try harder. 5/10 for effort.
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Re: Labour watch

PostPosted by Off The Hook » Mon May 18, 2015 9:42 pm

Have you been hacked by Off?
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Re: Labour watch

PostPosted by Roger O Thornhill » Mon May 18, 2015 9:45 pm

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Re: Labour watch

PostPosted by ClintEastwoodBradfield » Mon May 18, 2015 9:47 pm

Im unclear - elsewhere, you right wing loons are saying that once an election has happened, we should all shut up and accept that the people elected have a remit to do whatever they like.
However, on here, right wing loons seem to be criticising a Labour MP who respected the results of Labour's leadership election, and acted professionally and gave the leader her support despite private misgivings.

Not really sure how that isn't a bit contradictory?
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Re: Labour watch

PostPosted by MafiosO » Mon May 18, 2015 9:48 pm

The last refuge of those with no reply. Grow up ROT I used to look forward to your comments.
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Re: Labour watch

PostPosted by Roger O Thornhill » Mon May 18, 2015 9:53 pm

MafiosO wrote:The last refuge of those with no reply. Grow up ROT I used to look forward to your comments.


Your post really doesn't warrant a decent reply. Labour tend to leave their infighting until after the election - your lot tend to do it while in government. Major's Bastards ring a bell?

Grow up?

This from someone who is clearly so upset that there is a "Tory Watch" thread that he comes up with a Labour one...

Dear me...
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Re: Labour watch

PostPosted by MafiosO » Mon May 18, 2015 10:04 pm

Why all this Major stuff? Leave history where it belongs.

To be honest I have no issue with party infighting, Labour or Tory. Why assume 200/300 people who have the same broad ideals will share the same views on every policy. Sounds like the average corporate Board meeting to me. Healthy.

What I find hard to stomach is when 100% support turns to absolute criticism in the space of two weeks. If people like Cooper have such an issue with Ed the honourable thing to do would be to engage in infighting a few years ago. The way Labour are dealing with Ed is rather tacky.

I don't doubt the same would apply to Cameron had he lost, but he didn't. Dirty world, amusing to watch people look after themselves, not the country.
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Re: Labour watch

PostPosted by ClintEastwoodBradfield » Mon May 18, 2015 10:14 pm

100% support in the lead up to an election simply means being committed to the direction that the party leader has fought the election campaign on.
Once the election is over, and the party has lost at the polls, people can start to thrash out the fallout. This is very, very basic stuff.
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Re: Labour watch

PostPosted by MafiosO » Mon May 18, 2015 10:19 pm

Basic but dishonest. If people really believed Ed was wrong the honest thing to do was mount a challenge 2 or 3 years ago giving a new leader time to set agreeable policy. Let's face it, he has never been the chosen one,apart from a biased Union choice. The Labour Party are now paying the price for a lack of balls. No pun intended.
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Re: Labour watch

PostPosted by Roger O Thornhill » Mon May 18, 2015 10:32 pm

MafiosO wrote:Basic but dishonest. If people really believed Ed was wrong the honest thing to do was mount a challenge 2 or 3 years ago giving a new leader time to set agreeable policy. Let's face it, he has never been the chosen one,apart from a biased Union choice. The Labour Party are now paying the price for a lack of balls. No pun intended.


I'm struggling to understand why you even care. What's the point of the thread - just so you can go "Boo! labour! Boo!"?

It's not me that has to grow up...
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Re: Labour watch

PostPosted by MafiosO » Mon May 18, 2015 10:43 pm

The original point was to record my dislike for people who now put the knife in to a person that 2 weeks ago they were pledging their undying support. If they were that anti the boss then the honourable thing to do would have been to challenge 2/3 years ago and stood down as senior politicians had they lost, until now. Tacky. Would have been the same for Cameron had he lost, I'm sure. But he didn't. Very tasteless comments from senior Labours just now. Not a credit to them or the party.
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Re: Labour watch

PostPosted by Pie and Mash » Tue May 19, 2015 5:44 am

Roger O Thornhill wrote:your lot tend to do it while in government.


Unlike Gordon Brown and Tony Blair then
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Re: Labour watch

PostPosted by carpslayer » Tue May 19, 2015 6:28 am

MafiosO wrote:So Yvette cooper, shoulder to shoulder with Ed Milliband during the election now chooses to join those who criticise his leadership (lack of) and his policies.

It begs the question. If she believed he got it so wrong wouldn't the honourable thing to do to challenge him a few years ago. Was she being, well "unclear".when she offered him her 100% support. Perhaps she has had a eureka Moment. How can we trust people who believe a direction one day and criticise it another. Dirty business. Gutless, clueless, selfish are words that spring to mind.


its politics' that's what they do cheat lie play dirty you name it they do it there all :tosser s
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Re: Labour watch

PostPosted by Off The Hook » Tue May 19, 2015 7:15 am

I can't quite understand why mafioso is having a political meltdown when his lot actually won? Bizarre boarding.
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Re: Labour watch

PostPosted by Lester [Bot] » Tue May 19, 2015 7:20 am

Labour have lost all credibility, they don't even know what they stand for.
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Re: Labour watch

PostPosted by jamespevans » Tue May 19, 2015 7:38 am

Off The Hook wrote:I can't quite understand why mafioso is having a political meltdown when his lot actually won? Bizarre boarding.


I don't think he understands politics he was a "committed socialist under Blair" :? :?

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Re: Labour watch

PostPosted by Off The Hook » Tue May 19, 2015 7:46 am

jamespevans wrote:
Off The Hook wrote:I can't quite understand why mafioso is having a political meltdown when his lot actually won? Bizarre boarding.


I don't think he understands politics he was a "committed socialist under Blair" :? :?

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